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	<title>Comments on: Rites of passage, III</title>
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		<title>By: Pete Aldin</title>
		<link>http://www.adventuresinparenting.org/2009/04/29/rites-of-passage-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-1550</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Aldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 06:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jonathan: totally. :)

@ Joe: yeah, great questions and thoughts. I&#039;m seeing this as ongoing. My friend Dave and I are a third of the way through a year where we offer a lot of activities for the boys to do: camping, rockclimbing, &quot;charity&quot;/community work, etc. As both my boys get older, we&#039;ll do some sort of cross-cultural aid trip or another where they get to make a contribution as well as have an adventure. The young man and I also catch up for a chat often. At the moment I&#039;ve bought him a bass guitar and we just jam and learn new songs and talk while we&#039;re doing it. So finding something in common is helping...

As for has he changed? I&#039;m noticing two things: yes and no. No, in the sense that at times he actually regresses to toddlerhood again (like most adolescents) where he does dumb and senseless stuff, or just reaches out for reassurance in immature ways. Yes, in terms of him standing taller, if that makes sense. He has a new sense of assurance that two months after his 13th birthday is obvious to me and others...

Let us know what you experiment with, Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jonathan: totally. <img src='http://www.adventuresinparenting.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Joe: yeah, great questions and thoughts. I&#8217;m seeing this as ongoing. My friend Dave and I are a third of the way through a year where we offer a lot of activities for the boys to do: camping, rockclimbing, &#8220;charity&#8221;/community work, etc. As both my boys get older, we&#8217;ll do some sort of cross-cultural aid trip or another where they get to make a contribution as well as have an adventure. The young man and I also catch up for a chat often. At the moment I&#8217;ve bought him a bass guitar and we just jam and learn new songs and talk while we&#8217;re doing it. So finding something in common is helping&#8230;</p>
<p>As for has he changed? I&#8217;m noticing two things: yes and no. No, in the sense that at times he actually regresses to toddlerhood again (like most adolescents) where he does dumb and senseless stuff, or just reaches out for reassurance in immature ways. Yes, in terms of him standing taller, if that makes sense. He has a new sense of assurance that two months after his 13th birthday is obvious to me and others&#8230;</p>
<p>Let us know what you experiment with, Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, I&#039;m wondering something that maybe you can&#039;t answer yet. Have you noticed any &quot;permanent&quot; behavior changes in your son, post-ritual? This is not a challenge to your premise; I&#039;m genuinely curious. And on a related note, does your son now have upgraded responsibilities to go with his new status?

I&#039;m just thinking about how it might play out in my family. I could probably build a rite of passage...but then what? Boy 14 goes back to skateboards and Playstation, and the rite becomes just a memorable event.

In a hunter-gatherer culture, he would go out with me to literally bring home supper. He might have a shift at night by the fire to keep the wolves (or dingoes) away. But in modern western culture, our options seem fairly limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, I&#8217;m wondering something that maybe you can&#8217;t answer yet. Have you noticed any &#8220;permanent&#8221; behavior changes in your son, post-ritual? This is not a challenge to your premise; I&#8217;m genuinely curious. And on a related note, does your son now have upgraded responsibilities to go with his new status?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just thinking about how it might play out in my family. I could probably build a rite of passage&#8230;but then what? Boy 14 goes back to skateboards and Playstation, and the rite becomes just a memorable event.</p>
<p>In a hunter-gatherer culture, he would go out with me to literally bring home supper. He might have a shift at night by the fire to keep the wolves (or dingoes) away. But in modern western culture, our options seem fairly limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the idea of identify other adults of integrity that your child can turn to for wisdom and guidance in situations where they are not comfortable turning to you.  Believe me, they will seek it out somewhere and all to often it is their peers who have just as little life experience as they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the idea of identify other adults of integrity that your child can turn to for wisdom and guidance in situations where they are not comfortable turning to you.  Believe me, they will seek it out somewhere and all to often it is their peers who have just as little life experience as they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Aldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Aldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad this is of help, Rick. Thanks Katy for publishing this. Writing it helped me crystalize some of my own thinking on the topic too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad this is of help, Rick. Thanks Katy for publishing this. Writing it helped me crystalize some of my own thinking on the topic too.</p>
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		<title>By: From childhood to adulthood &#124; Adventures in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.adventuresinparenting.org/2009/04/29/rites-of-passage-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>From childhood to adulthood &#124; Adventures in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] particularly like the idea of having mentors for our [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, the time will come faster than you think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, the time will come faster than you think!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick @ Tiny Prints</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick @ Tiny Prints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a 2 1/2 year old, I have a ways to go before having to deal with his adulthood.  But you make some great points for laying the foundation.  

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a 2 1/2 year old, I have a ways to go before having to deal with his adulthood.  But you make some great points for laying the foundation.  </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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